Print Longevity
April 16, 2007

Mike comments:
I’ve got prints on my walls that are over 20 years old. They still look as good as the day they came out of the wash. And as far as I can tell no one’s proven that this inkjet stuff will last that long.
Because of my heavy focus on enjoying the process, and the fact that I view prints as being of relatively little importance, I’m probably not as worried about print longevity as some folks are. I confess that I don’t understand the extremes of passion that are directed toward archival processing, etc. when it’s manifestly true that for all but a handful of photographers working today, the eventual fate of all of our physical prints will be that our grandchildren will shuffle through them, think “Old Grandpa sure was a weird guy”, and tip the entire thing into the trash. If every print made lasted forever, then we’d eventually be neck deep in prints, folks. Not everything important needs to last forever.
But one thing I don’t understand is this: the implicit assumption seems to be that, since there are gelatin silver prints around that are 20 years old, (or 60 years old, or 100 years old) we can expect that ALL gelatin silver prints will last that long. That’s rubbish. We have gelatin silver prints that have been around for a long time because there were so very many made, and they’ve been processed in a staggeringly wide variety of ways, and then stored in an even wider variety of ways. And a very small minority of them have survived. Folks who crow about the demonstrated longevity of gelatin silver prints are conveniently ignoring the millions and millions of gelatin silver prints which have NOT lasted.
Now, I understand that the argument goes “Yes, some GSPs have not lasted very long. But we now have Archival Processing, and so OUR prints will last forever.” The problem with this argument is that exactly what Archival Processing is has changed over time. First, it was two bath fixing. Then it was the Ilford quick fix process. Everyone thought that selenium toning would guarantee prints that lasted forever, and then Kodak changed the formulation of Rapid Selenium Toner and eliminated the (previously considered unimportant) trace ingredient that was providing the protection, so lots of prints that everyone thought were archivally processed were, in fact, not.
And, to be honest, I think the whole ‘archivally processed’ thing is more marketing hype than anything else. A while back, I decided to take a survey of exactly what this much ballyhooed ‘archival process’ was, so I sent email to wide swath of photographers who claimed that the prints they sold were ‘archivally processed’ on their web sites. About half of those who responded said that they just followed the archival standard, but could not point me to a copy of the standard. About a quarter told me that they used the old, now discredited minimal selenium toning technique. And about a quarter said that they’d done residual fixer testing, and anything that passed was by definition archival. I didn’t consider all this to be very promising. Face it, there is no ‘archival standard’. Folks who claim that their processing meets archival standards are, as far as I can tell, blowing smoke and asking you to watch the pretty mirrors.
But the killer is this: because of longevity concerns, resin coated gelatin silver papers have undergone heavy accelerated aging testing. We have some sense of how long they’ll last. Likewise the various color processes. Inkjet printing, too. But I can find NO such testing for conventional, fiber based gelatin silver papers. Apparently, it doesn’t exist. And, to make matters worse, we can’t even extrapolate from the performance of previous years papers. NONE of the currently marketed traditional gelatin silver papers are the same as they were just a decade ago. Emulsion formulations have changed repeatedly. Suppliers have changed, and so the trace impurities (which often have big effects on longevity) have also changed. So if you’re currently printing on gelatin silver papers, even if you’re using what you believe to be archival processing techniques, you’ve simply got no testing at all to back up your beliefs about the longevity of your prints. None. (hint – almost all of the research on things like using toners for permanence were done to preserve (wait for it…) microfilm records, not continuous tone photographs)
At least with inkjet prints, you can fall back on the accelerated aging and fade tests. They may not be much but they’re better than nothing. I don’t trust the Wilhelm accelerated aging tests farther than I can throw them (which is just about to the end of the decade) but I trust them more than nothing at all.
And a little perspective is helpful, too, when you’re deciding how much energy and worry to invest in the longevity thing. At a workshop, John Sexton told a story about how his earliest photographs were of drag racing. And, he said, they weren’t really all that good. The good news is that when he made them he knew next to nothing about proper processing, so most of his embarassing work is now gone. From this I take the lesson that worrying about print longevity is, for me, putting the cart before the horse. When I can make photographs that are good enough to make them worth preserving forever, I’ll start worrying about making them last forever. Until then, I’ll work on the art part.
April 16, 2007 at 12:22 pm
It’s fine worrying about the art part. No argument there. Why, tho, is it necessary to reiinvent the wheel? Prints were made for years with no greater investent than a light source, a piece of heavy glass, a few trays, some water, chemistry and a package of print papers.
Now one needs the PC/Mac, software, scanners, new cameras, printers with a half life of months, and ink — of which a few milliliters cost as much as many sheets of paper, which is still needed.
Is there something I’ve missed here. Are we really better off making this expensive change — which seems to be a never ending “let’s get the latest model” routine? It’s likje changing cars every couple years. No sense in that, is there? I have the feeling it’s an extension of the consumer “throw away” mentality. Don’t fix it — replace it.
Maybe I’ve been here too long. I remember when people fixed TVs (which were also B&W), resoled shoes (has shoes with real soles), had socks mended, and could tune their cars with a strobe.
Makes me a luddite, I suppose.
April 16, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Now one needs the PC/Mac, software, scanners, new cameras, printers with a half life of months, and ink — of which a few milliliters cost as much as many sheets of paper, which is still needed.
Because I’m fairly OCD, I not only track my current costs for printing closely, but I tracked the costs of running my darkroom quite closely.
Just to set the record straight, my ink costs for a 10×13 image size print on my 9600 are just about exactly $0.50. Printing on Epson Enhanced Matte, that puts my final cost of materials for a 10×13 print on 11×14 paper at $0.80.
Looking at B&H, Ilford MG IV fiberbase glossy 11×14 paper currently costs $1.20 per sheet.
Then add in costs for chemicals, the fact that I run through a lot of paper just getting the print right. Costs of silver reclamation.
I’ve tracked the costs. Trust me, consumables costs for the wet darkroom were much higher than the costs of inkjet printing.
There are persuasive arguments for doing silver printing rather than inkjet. Costs and print longevity are two of the arguments which are not persuasive.
April 16, 2007 at 7:39 pm
One real problem with “archival” is that it’s a lofty goal stated as a positive, when what most people really want and need is just to avoid the opposite.
That is, “it will last forever” is not the actual issue at all.
The actual issue is “it won’t fade horribly in 4 months”.
So in some sense, “archival” processing of GSPs really meant “not incompetent or incomplete processing, and in particular, adquate fixing and fixer removal”.
The real test isn’t 50years vs 150years. It’s 20years verus 6months. (And some early inkjet materials were indeed very short lived!)
April 16, 2007 at 9:22 pm
I’ll trust you on the costs/print bit. Fine for the momoent.
Now come back in 5/10/20 years and tell me your printer’s still working, your “digital capture device” is still functioning, your PC/Mac hasn’t kacked it (life expectancy is what? 5 yrs?), your software still functions on the newest generation of PC/Macs, you can still access your storage media, and I’ll be point you to my darkroom in which stands an enlarger I purchased used 20+ years ago, my cameras (the youngest is 15+ years). How do we factor that in? And the computer OSs which always seem to need upgrading, and the failed memory chips/sticks/cards and the defunct batteries, and, and, and.
This is a downward spiral I see here which seems geared at sucking the money out of photographers’ pockets — making photographers into overconsumers striving, I guess, for the “perfect” print (or “fine” print as it was called back in the hi-ho silver days).
Now, I guess if one’s in the demand-printing business these investments can amortize themselves and one can write off that 4 foot printer and the mega-screen and the OS and the box. Fine. But most of us can’t.
Cheers!
April 17, 2007 at 1:47 am
It’s fine worrying about the art part. No argument there. Why, tho, is it necessary to reiinvent the wheel? Prints were made for years with no greater investent than a light source, a piece of heavy glass, a few trays, some water, chemistry and a package of print papers.
Ooo, all that darkroom stuff really was expensive. Since neither my bank account nor my back can support a large format setup, I need a bit more than a piece of glass. Not that I can afford a house with space for a dark room these days either. And god how I hate spending time in that darkroom.
For me, the digital age has boosted my interest in photography to a new level. It has significantly lowered my print costs. The only reason why I use more money on photography now than I did before is that I produce more. But most important, I don’t have to spend time in dark loneliness breathing dangerous chemicals.
Happy days
April 18, 2007 at 4:19 am
Why the darts at the digital printing process Mike? You aren’t going to stop it – so either embrace it or stay in the dark…room. No one says you MUST upgrade your equipment. The camera I have today, the computer I have today, the printer I have today – will make the same quality 5 years down the road for certain, 10 or 20 years remains a question probably of my ink supplies, not the actual capability of the equipment. Probably no different than a particular chemical being available – of which I am certainly glad there are fewer of them being dumped down darkroom sinks.
As far as archival properties, I don’t see any particular reason to not put faith in Wilhelm test results. Are they an exact prediction? Who knows? But he does have comparative analysis against more traditional processes and papers under the same conditions, and that gives us a pretty good idea what to expect ‘in real life.’
April 18, 2007 at 7:39 am
Least we forget what’s driving this change from the more traditional silver technology to the digital age — not us arty types, but good ol’ Joe Consumer who couldn’t care less whether he uses film or electronic wonders to take a picture of littl’ Sally for Grandma. So long as it looks like Sally, Joe and Grandma will be happy. The other 1% of the market (if that much) is us. Who amongst us doesn’t have family color snapshots that are nothing more than ugly yellowed pieces of paper with only a barely recognizable reddish image left? What ever happened to the “Lifetime of Memories” promised by the Great Yellow Father? This past week I viewed large color prints by Laura Letinsky, print with prices around $3500, that were badly faded and yellowed. Good ol’ Cyrstal Archive RA-4 stuff. I saw in a friend’s collection an older Joel Meyerowitz print in the same condition. But I have seen many B&W prints from the late 19th Century and the early 20th Century that look as though they haven’t aged at all. I have color negatives from 30-35 years ago that I can’t print. However, I have B&W negatives from my childhood — I’m in my 70’s — from which I can still make lovely prints. So where is this diatribe going? We are not in control of where all this is going. Producing photographic materials and equipment is a business, the business of consumerism. We don’t consume enough as a segment of the market to make a dent in the overall market. IOW’s since our market share is so small, we don’t count.
So the deal is this. The image and the making of the image is what’s important. And as has already been said, let’s hope our images are worthy enough to hang around past ourselves. Afterall, all Kodak ever promised was a “lifetime” — anything beyond that is gravy.
I’m gonna’ go home with the one that got me to the dance. But if she disappears, I’m not going home alone, I’ll find me a new partner. The point being that I’m still dancing, just the dance has changed.
BTW, there did/does exist archival test data from the likes of Kodak, and one fine old gentleman who helped me in the beginning, Edmond Lowe. When the company began, he WAS Edwal Photo Chemicals.
Pitchertaker — who still enjoys his traditional darkroom along with his digital darkroom.
April 18, 2007 at 7:50 am
But I have seen many B&W prints from the late 19th Century and the early 20th Century that look as though they haven’t aged at all. I have color negatives from 30-35 years ago that I can’t print. However, I have B&W negatives from my childhood — I’m in my 70’s — from which I can still make lovely prints.
I think you miss the point of Paul’s post – those, of course, are the ones which survived.
Having worked on and of in photo archives for years, I can tell you I’ve seen equally as many (well, actually, far more) b&w prints and negatives that have deteriorated terrible. Many beyond the point of recovery. Indeed in many major photo collections they are now find that prints which had been stable for a good period of time (say 100 years) – and stored in archival conditions – are now hitting an accelerated period of deterioration’s – that is, the curve has gradually steepened after having been reasonably level for a long period of time